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what is up everybody thanks for joining

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us on this wonderful

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thursday afternoon

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um so i still am going to do some

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thursday shows now and again or i mean

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early afternoon shows once in a while

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probably will wind up being wednesday

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but who knows you know me sometimes

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um if something pops up some news or

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something that's breaking

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or something that's just on my mind and

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i want to grab you know the the

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camera or whatever and start doing some

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talking that's what i'll do

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um

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a citizen scientist he was on the show a

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while back and we talked about

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uh the townsend brown whole scenario

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because i had those documents

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uh those were in the uh air force osi

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documents i had so he gave us a

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breakdown of that it was pretty cool but

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you got to be a member now to see that

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video if you haven't noticed um

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i have

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so many videos i'm starting to put a

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good amount of them in the members only

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thing

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old enough for me to do that i wouldn't

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just do that but but you know what i'm

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uh there's a lot of good reason to be a

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member and it's like a

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dollar 99 a month or something

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you know am i going to get rich off of

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but it's something you know so

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yeah so we're going to bring him on and

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i'm also going to talk about the poll i

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put on twitter which would have had to

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uh it was pretty basic like do you

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believe um we're being

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told the truth you know it was an

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overall question it wasn't towards one

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person or the other person but um we got

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about 200 votes in there

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i'll tell you the results and maybe i'll

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go through some of

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some of the comments that kind of stuck

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out to me the most on there and give you

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my thoughts about that

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and tonight at 6 00 p.m central standard

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um we have

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deborah from

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the observers she's the experiencer from

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the observers movie uh that just came

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out yesterday which if you haven't seen

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it um

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you know let me know how you feel i

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thought it was a pretty great movie so

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overwhelming so

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famous

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intro well i got a lot of different

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and none of them are really famous but

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so yeah that's end uap secrecy day don't

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miss it we have benji as a host also an

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experiencer

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i'll be there

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here we have jake christopher king

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experiencer

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a lot of people we have john ramirez

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experiencer we have

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uh steve in bassette ross cohart we have

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a great group of people from france

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great researchers i'm going to update

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the guests on the event here there's

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just been a lot going on but i'm going

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to get to that and start hitting that

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pretty soon first just want to say hi to

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everybody um mckay for 2d

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uh linda

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uh woman's uap

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what's up uh lord boss lord base

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what's happening witness citizen glad

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that's never going to get old maybe the

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people who watch

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consistently but

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diesel girl what's up

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thanks for popping in i appreciate it

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uh uriel did i say that right what's

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thanks for hanging out i do appreciate

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it jose hello

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how are you uh if anyone's watching and

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they aren't signed into youtube that'd

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be great if he did hit the subscribe

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button or like the video

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or even on twitter jump over to youtube

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join the chat hang out

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um because sometimes it's fun not always

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a lot of that's up to you alright so

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without further ado i'm gonna bring in a

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citizen scientist how you doing

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good how are you sean good

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aka joe

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yeah

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josie's your one for everyone out there

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okay yeah i'm not gonna sit here call

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you a citizen i'm citizen i'm just

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kidding

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oh we got a new guy to edmond star

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what's up

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awesome

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robert hello

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happy to see you as always sir

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what are you thinking about this

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amendment

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the work culture that got others

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interested in it so

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it being the phenomenon in general but

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yeah that's good

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um you know i was with uh

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dr ravi loeb last night and they're

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looking for

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you know possible engineers to help out

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so maybe that's a that's an opportunity

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for you at some point who knows

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you know i don't know if um i'm in the

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specialty that they're looking for but

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yeah i'm interested yeah so um today you

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are going to talk with us about um

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something called stellar lifting

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which sounds very very interesting

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by which a civilization

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civilization or above but there's a lot

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in any case stellar lifting what it does

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inducing and controlling solar flares

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for for their local star or a star that

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in order to get the material that's

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normally so stars eject material all the

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the neighborhood right for anyone that's

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of material and actually encourage it

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kernel mass ejections with advanced

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continue to control the where that

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material if you're advanced enough a

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quick way to get a lot of material

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star out of it all right it wow just as

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know the sun is going to eventually turn

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expand out well it you know in so many i

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sufficiently advanced race that didn't

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want their star to completely

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eliminate their planet because when the

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sun would expand like that we would it

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how does this how does a

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theory like that come about it i mean it

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like you know it's something that could

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you know you make it sound like

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something that would make sense for

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someone to do or something to do but

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like who's the first person to say

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you know i got an idea

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you know how does that work

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thinks about a topic or maybe has an

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insight that comes up right so um i i

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um uh david criswell he was the one who

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right it was chris well but um anyway

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his head or why he was uh thinking about

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this when he came up with the idea but

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which would probably be very difficult

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so the only way that we would probably

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be able to find this right now uh would

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be through um telescopes which

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there's a interesting aspect of this

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there's a paper

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that's been out

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i don't know

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how many in the audience might be

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familiar with this but there's a star by

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the name of boyajian's star tabby star

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in the popular

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culture at this point it's the

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designation is kic

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846 2852

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and

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it has been um it is experiencing what's

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called secular dimming which

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surprisingly the term secular in

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astronomy doesn't mean the same thing

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as as it would in general vernacular so

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to define it really quickly uh secular

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dimming meaning that the dimming that's

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experienced by the star is non-periodic

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dimming over a long period of time uh

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but in any case a new paper by gary

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sacco um

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came out recently uh within the last

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couple months and he uh reviewed older

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star surveys so

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tabby's star to just quickly back up for

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a second has been theorized to maybe be

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evidence of an alien megastructure it

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was conv conjecture initially as a

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hypothetical

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uh theory uh that somewhat fit the data

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then people came around and said that no

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other scientists came around said no

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it's probably more of like dust

329
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but the problem with that theory uh from

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like us collision uh is has been

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addressed in this new paper by gary

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sacco because we found that

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kic-8462852 was actually in

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previous star surveys like from 1935 and

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1978 and um

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in reality it challenges the model that

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well it's must be dimming due to dust

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because

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there's

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again with the stellar um

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winds and everything like that the the

342
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star would have cleared if there was a

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collision

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it would have cleared that material by

345
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now

346
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so

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uh

348
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it's doesn't really seem to fit that

349
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that process we don't necessarily know

350
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for a fact that it's stellar lifting but

351
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right as it's described in that paper um

352
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there's enough

353
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weird things that stellar lifting now

354
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actually becomes maybe the one of the

355
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more likely hypothesis

356
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hypotheses for what is going on here so

357
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we may actually have evidence of it and

358
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um

359
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interestingly enough we might be able to

360
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see more of these types of

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objects or mega structures or evidence

362
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of these types of geo

363
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i guess

364
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mega engineering if you want to use that

365
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term uh

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with uh the james webb space telescope

367
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that's getting launched here next month

368
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so wow it i mean that takes a different

369
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intelligent life so that's kind of a

370
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different way to prove it in and of

371
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itself

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isn't it

373
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right right and honestly um

374
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everyone you know this has been going on

375
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since 2013 now this this whole boyajian

376
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star mystery um i i think that we were

377
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we should keep our eye on this because

378
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um if the there's a in the paper it

379
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talks about actually having a

380
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periodicity to the dimming um

381
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and the timing from 1930

382
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uh the

383
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1935 survey and the 1978 survey

384
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to 2013 was the same eight percent

385
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dimming um

386
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we may actually find evidence here in

387
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the not too distant future

388
00:15:25,670 --> 00:15:22,800
uh as that periodicity comes back up i

389
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believe it was like two thousand and

390
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some days it came out to like this exact

391
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period of like four years almost

392
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um but it yeah uh if that holds if gary

393
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sacko's intuition is correct and uh that

394
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ends up holding then we

395
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we are going to have evidence of

396
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something that that doesn't make sense

397
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doesn't have a natural explanation we'll

398
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put it that way because that's again

399
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that type of periodicity there should

400
00:15:54,629 --> 00:15:52,399
only be so much material in a in a solar

401
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system that can crash into each other

402
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and allow it to continue and to give

403
00:16:01,829 --> 00:15:57,920
everyone a perspective

404
00:16:03,910 --> 00:16:01,839
the dimming was uh roughly uh

405
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eight percent and

406
00:16:08,389 --> 00:16:06,079
a jupiter size object when we you know

407
00:16:10,470 --> 00:16:08,399
like this is how we study um for fresh

408
00:16:12,389 --> 00:16:10,480
solar extrasolar objects like for

409
00:16:14,790 --> 00:16:12,399
planetary bodies you look at

410
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uh object crossing in front of the star

411
00:16:17,670 --> 00:16:16,399
and seeing how much it dims and if you

412
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you know you can get the size of the

413
00:16:21,910 --> 00:16:19,279
object of the planet by that

414
00:16:23,430 --> 00:16:21,920
um a jupiter-sized planet crossing in

415
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front of the sun is going to produce

416
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roughly a five percent

417
00:16:30,629 --> 00:16:27,680
uh dip so it's an object 16 times the

418
00:16:32,710 --> 00:16:30,639
size of jupiter or a dust cloud 16 times

419
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the size of jupiter that's somehow over

420
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100 years not being

421
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pushed out

422
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by stellar winds or you know you know

423
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you don't so the only thing that makes

424
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sense would be stellar lifting you've

425
00:16:42,949 --> 00:16:41,600
got

426
00:16:44,710 --> 00:16:42,959
well maybe not the only thing but the

427
00:16:46,870 --> 00:16:44,720
only thing we have right now right uh

428
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right that as this material is

429
00:16:50,870 --> 00:16:49,199
continuing to be pulled back out um then

430
00:16:52,629 --> 00:16:50,880
it's continually producing this dust

431
00:16:54,870 --> 00:16:52,639
cloud because they're continuing to mine

432
00:16:57,110 --> 00:16:54,880
the material from the start wow

433
00:16:59,110 --> 00:16:57,120
i wish we had this conversation pre obvi

434
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i would i would totally

435
00:17:04,069 --> 00:17:02,240
i would totally bring that up with them

436
00:17:05,429 --> 00:17:04,079
well you can definitely ask him next

437
00:17:07,909 --> 00:17:05,439
time you see him

438
00:17:09,829 --> 00:17:07,919
yeah yeah so the james webb telescope

439
00:17:11,510 --> 00:17:09,839
could could possibly see something like

440
00:17:14,549 --> 00:17:11,520
that hey how do you feel about that

441
00:17:16,710 --> 00:17:14,559
telescope apparently it goes back

442
00:17:19,270 --> 00:17:16,720
two billion plus years

443
00:17:21,110 --> 00:17:19,280
to look back at the the beginning of

444
00:17:23,350 --> 00:17:21,120
everything basically

445
00:17:25,189 --> 00:17:23,360
um

446
00:17:27,590 --> 00:17:25,199
have you used a lot of telescopes have

447
00:17:30,310 --> 00:17:27,600
you looked into this one like

448
00:17:32,710 --> 00:17:30,320
what what does it do that

449
00:17:36,070 --> 00:17:32,720
others have not yet done you know

450
00:17:37,990 --> 00:17:36,080
technically speaking well one so um abby

451
00:17:39,350 --> 00:17:38,000
probably could speak to this that dr

452
00:17:40,150 --> 00:17:39,360
lopez speak to us a lot better than i

453
00:17:41,750 --> 00:17:40,160
could

454
00:17:43,190 --> 00:17:41,760
i know i know he was involved in you

455
00:17:45,350 --> 00:17:43,200
know i think he mentioned this on your

456
00:17:47,990 --> 00:17:45,360
show he was involved in right of you

457
00:17:50,870 --> 00:17:48,000
know the project for but i i can say

458
00:17:52,390 --> 00:17:50,880
while i have had you know some uh

459
00:17:55,430 --> 00:17:52,400
experience a little bit with with

460
00:17:57,830 --> 00:17:55,440
telescopes i'm not an astronomer however

461
00:18:00,630 --> 00:17:57,840
it is a very

462
00:18:03,750 --> 00:18:00,640
big development in my opinion because

463
00:18:06,630 --> 00:18:03,760
it's a great upgrade from the hubble

464
00:18:08,710 --> 00:18:06,640
telescope uh which is getting very close

465
00:18:12,310 --> 00:18:08,720
to end of life anyways right when did

466
00:18:13,830 --> 00:18:12,320
that come around the hubble um

467
00:18:14,710 --> 00:18:13,840
i know it was before my time on this

468
00:18:16,789 --> 00:18:14,720
planet

469
00:18:19,190 --> 00:18:16,799
oh yeah that's that's pretty old then

470
00:18:23,029 --> 00:18:20,870
that's that's not necessarily a fair

471
00:18:25,909 --> 00:18:23,039
thing for me to say right but uh

472
00:18:29,110 --> 00:18:25,919
i believe it was launched in 1990 hubble

473
00:18:31,909 --> 00:18:29,120
and oh well uh i don't know the exact

474
00:18:33,590 --> 00:18:31,919
date but yeah sometime in 1990 i believe

475
00:18:35,510 --> 00:18:33,600
and the uh

476
00:18:36,950 --> 00:18:35,520
the interesting thing though is hubble

477
00:18:38,549 --> 00:18:36,960
was like like i mentioned near end of

478
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life so we kind of needed something to

479
00:18:42,549 --> 00:18:40,240
replace it anyways and the technical

480
00:18:44,789 --> 00:18:42,559
capabilities of this new telescope are

481
00:18:46,070 --> 00:18:44,799
are something to be very excited about

482
00:18:48,630 --> 00:18:46,080
the aspect that it's going to be in

483
00:18:51,669 --> 00:18:48,640
lagrange 2 also and and purely in

484
00:18:54,150 --> 00:18:51,679
infrared is uh pretty exciting

485
00:18:55,669 --> 00:18:54,160
wow yeah infrared because that's also

486
00:19:01,270 --> 00:18:55,679
how

487
00:19:03,590 --> 00:19:01,280
the uavs

488
00:19:05,909 --> 00:19:03,600
you know is that a synthetic

489
00:19:07,029 --> 00:19:05,919
yeah not that it's looking for that but

490
00:19:09,830 --> 00:19:07,039
um

491
00:19:11,190 --> 00:19:09,840
you know if you come upon a civilization

492
00:19:13,590 --> 00:19:11,200
and you know

493
00:19:15,990 --> 00:19:13,600
full of objects well what else do you

494
00:19:17,590 --> 00:19:16,000
call them

495
00:19:19,029 --> 00:19:17,600
right yeah

496
00:19:20,630 --> 00:19:19,039
so

497
00:19:21,990 --> 00:19:20,640
i guess uh

498
00:19:26,070 --> 00:19:22,000
you know going back to the stellar

499
00:19:27,430 --> 00:19:26,080
lifting um what is the next date uh to

500
00:19:30,070 --> 00:19:27,440
look forward to

501
00:19:31,510 --> 00:19:30,080
to see if um you said it was the dimming

502
00:19:33,990 --> 00:19:31,520
pretty much stays at the same level

503
00:19:34,950 --> 00:19:34,000
correct uh correct i i think it's

504
00:19:36,950 --> 00:19:34,960
roughly

505
00:19:38,470 --> 00:19:36,960
three and a half years from now it's

506
00:19:40,150 --> 00:19:38,480
what i almost wanted to pull the paper

507
00:19:41,909 --> 00:19:40,160
up because it i don't have it memorized

508
00:19:44,390 --> 00:19:41,919
but it's it's it was like it was like

509
00:19:46,549 --> 00:19:44,400
about a four year periodicity and um you

510
00:19:49,669 --> 00:19:46,559
know we're well on our way towards it so

511
00:19:51,110 --> 00:19:49,679
okay um it'll be sometime here in the i

512
00:19:52,470 --> 00:19:51,120
think three and a half years i can get

513
00:19:54,950 --> 00:19:52,480
the exact date and

514
00:19:56,549 --> 00:19:54,960
you could uh maybe post that on the

515
00:19:57,669 --> 00:19:56,559
thing later but i don't have it off the

516
00:19:59,669 --> 00:19:57,679
top of my head

517
00:20:00,650 --> 00:19:59,679
no no that's okay that's all right i

518
00:20:02,310 --> 00:20:00,660
don't either so

519
00:20:03,990 --> 00:20:02,320
[Laughter]

520
00:20:06,149 --> 00:20:04,000
um

521
00:20:07,990 --> 00:20:06,159
do you see any what do you see in the

522
00:20:10,870 --> 00:20:08,000
future of um

523
00:20:11,669 --> 00:20:10,880
um i guess engineering or scientifically

524
00:20:13,270 --> 00:20:11,679
to

525
00:20:16,070 --> 00:20:13,280
uh find other

526
00:20:17,990 --> 00:20:16,080
you know intelligent life sources other

527
00:20:19,590 --> 00:20:18,000
than what's being done right now can you

528
00:20:20,789 --> 00:20:19,600
think of anything

529
00:20:23,110 --> 00:20:20,799
um

530
00:20:24,230 --> 00:20:23,120
well i i can briefly touch on yeah

531
00:20:25,990 --> 00:20:24,240
there's a

532
00:20:27,750 --> 00:20:26,000
with the james webb space telescope it's

533
00:20:29,430 --> 00:20:27,760
going to offer the opportunity for us to

534
00:20:32,070 --> 00:20:29,440
look in ways that we don't have the

535
00:20:34,149 --> 00:20:32,080
capability to right now right um you

536
00:20:36,230 --> 00:20:34,159
know where we could literally be looking

537
00:20:38,549 --> 00:20:36,240
we might find techno signatures in ways

538
00:20:40,310 --> 00:20:38,559
that there are some pretty

539
00:20:41,990 --> 00:20:40,320
um innovative ways that people are

540
00:20:43,830 --> 00:20:42,000
coming up with right now for possibly

541
00:20:45,590 --> 00:20:43,840
searching for it like for example

542
00:20:48,230 --> 00:20:45,600
there are certain chemicals that we know

543
00:20:51,669 --> 00:20:48,240
um are factors of pollution like here on

544
00:20:54,549 --> 00:20:51,679
earth and um right with light curves and

545
00:20:56,630 --> 00:20:54,559
the uh james webb space telescope we may

546
00:20:59,590 --> 00:20:56,640
be able to identify

547
00:21:01,029 --> 00:20:59,600
pollution in the atmospheres of

548
00:21:02,710 --> 00:21:01,039
other

549
00:21:04,230 --> 00:21:02,720
planetary bodies in different star

550
00:21:05,750 --> 00:21:04,240
systems that's uh one of the

551
00:21:07,750 --> 00:21:05,760
possibilities of this so that's that's

552
00:21:09,590 --> 00:21:07,760
one thing i wonder i wonder if bill

553
00:21:11,750 --> 00:21:09,600
nelson was kind of hinting at that when

554
00:21:14,149 --> 00:21:11,760
he was on his uh

555
00:21:15,750 --> 00:21:14,159
i don't know if you caught the national

556
00:21:18,950 --> 00:21:15,760
cathedral event

557
00:21:21,750 --> 00:21:18,960
um yeah but he was talking about his

558
00:21:25,029 --> 00:21:21,760
thoughts when he you know was up in

559
00:21:26,870 --> 00:21:25,039
space and he had to sneak away from his

560
00:21:29,669 --> 00:21:26,880
sleep time to

561
00:21:31,590 --> 00:21:29,679
look at the sky and he said i already

562
00:21:33,830 --> 00:21:31,600
saw some signs of

563
00:21:36,870 --> 00:21:33,840
uh what we were doing wrong back on

564
00:21:38,870 --> 00:21:36,880
earth and it sounds more or less like it

565
00:21:41,669 --> 00:21:38,880
would be

566
00:21:44,230 --> 00:21:41,679
you know ozone related or or something

567
00:21:47,430 --> 00:21:44,240
of that sort i suppose

568
00:21:49,909 --> 00:21:47,440
um yeah i'm you know i i'd have to maybe

569
00:21:51,350 --> 00:21:49,919
ask him for specifics because there's a

570
00:21:53,110 --> 00:21:51,360
lot of there's a lot of ways that could

571
00:21:55,270 --> 00:21:53,120
go but it could have been from evidence

572
00:21:56,310 --> 00:21:55,280
of pollution and seeing what we're doing

573
00:21:58,549 --> 00:21:56,320
right

574
00:22:01,029 --> 00:21:58,559
very interesting well i know you gotta

575
00:22:03,830 --> 00:22:01,039
run um so

576
00:22:05,510 --> 00:22:03,840
um i guess i will let you go we'll

577
00:22:07,909 --> 00:22:05,520
you know we'll do this again with a

578
00:22:09,750 --> 00:22:07,919
little more time on our side next time

579
00:22:12,390 --> 00:22:09,760
um

580
00:22:14,149 --> 00:22:12,400
but yeah that being said why don't you i

581
00:22:15,990 --> 00:22:14,159
think he sent me the paper on that so

582
00:22:18,549 --> 00:22:16,000
i'll dig into it more and maybe next

583
00:22:19,990 --> 00:22:18,559
time we'll go even farther with it

584
00:22:22,710 --> 00:22:20,000
sounds good and i don't know if you want

585
00:22:24,789 --> 00:22:22,720
to i do have to jump off but uh i don't

586
00:22:26,070 --> 00:22:24,799
know i didn't notice but was there

587
00:22:27,830 --> 00:22:26,080
anyone in the chat that had a question

588
00:22:29,750 --> 00:22:27,840
or anything just to make sure i don't

589
00:22:32,390 --> 00:22:29,760
ignore anyone that wanted a question

590
00:22:34,789 --> 00:22:32,400
real quick if somebody does have a

591
00:22:36,789 --> 00:22:34,799
question in regards to what we discussed

592
00:22:38,070 --> 00:22:36,799
today like stellar lifting you can throw

593
00:22:41,830 --> 00:22:38,080
it out there

594
00:22:45,029 --> 00:22:41,840
and he can try to answer that for you

595
00:22:47,270 --> 00:22:45,039
um just no personal stuff you know

596
00:22:48,390 --> 00:22:47,280
no personal stuff we can we can't do

597
00:22:50,470 --> 00:22:48,400
that here

598
00:22:52,789 --> 00:22:50,480
um unless he wants to answer that that's

599
00:22:55,350 --> 00:22:52,799
up to him like how many dogs he got you

600
00:22:57,909 --> 00:22:55,360
got any cats how about birds

601
00:22:59,750 --> 00:22:57,919
bunnies anything

602
00:23:01,750 --> 00:22:59,760
no well if you guys come up with a

603
00:23:02,950 --> 00:23:01,760
question later just let me know and i'll

604
00:23:04,950 --> 00:23:02,960
get in touch with them to get that

605
00:23:06,630 --> 00:23:04,960
answer fair enough

606
00:23:09,430 --> 00:23:06,640
fair enough all right sounds good

607
00:23:12,070 --> 00:23:09,440
brother uh be well we'll talk soon

608
00:23:13,430 --> 00:23:12,080
thanks you take care all right

609
00:23:16,149 --> 00:23:13,440
peace

610
00:23:17,110 --> 00:23:16,159
all right sounds good um good dude good

611
00:23:18,870 --> 00:23:17,120
dude

612
00:23:21,990 --> 00:23:18,880
thank you so much for contributing you

613
00:23:22,789 --> 00:23:22,000
get that right um i am just going to

614
00:23:26,630 --> 00:23:22,799
take

615
00:23:29,590 --> 00:23:26,640
a small little break come back

616
00:23:31,350 --> 00:23:29,600
and we will go over

617
00:23:36,789 --> 00:23:31,360
um

618
00:23:39,510 --> 00:23:36,799
learn something new from you already and

619
00:23:40,950 --> 00:23:39,520
that's what this is about right learning

620
00:23:42,870 --> 00:23:40,960
for sure

621
00:23:46,390 --> 00:23:42,880
so gonna take a quick little break we'll

622
00:23:49,269 --> 00:23:46,400
go over that uh twitter poll

623
00:23:52,630 --> 00:23:49,279
which should be very interesting

624
00:23:56,070 --> 00:23:53,909
hang with me

625
00:23:57,669 --> 00:23:56,080
and we will

626
00:24:00,390 --> 00:23:57,679
do it

627
00:24:01,430 --> 00:24:00,400
t-minus 10 9 8

628
00:24:02,310 --> 00:24:01,440
7

629
00:24:04,390 --> 00:24:02,320
6

630
00:24:05,510 --> 00:24:04,400
5.

631
00:24:06,630 --> 00:24:05,520
three

632
00:24:07,669 --> 00:24:06,640
two

633
00:24:11,190 --> 00:24:07,679
one

634
00:24:17,440 --> 00:24:11,200
zero and liftoff of space shuttle and

635
00:24:17,450 --> 00:25:13,830
[Music]

636
00:25:17,830 --> 00:25:15,320
check it looks good baby

637
00:25:18,870 --> 00:25:17,840
[Laughter]

638
00:25:21,110 --> 00:25:18,880
uh

639
00:25:22,710 --> 00:25:21,120
yeah he is on twitter i don't know how

640
00:25:24,230 --> 00:25:22,720
he feels about me sharing that or not i

641
00:25:26,710 --> 00:25:24,240
should probably ask him first but yeah

642
00:25:30,630 --> 00:25:26,720
he's on twitter um

643
00:25:33,510 --> 00:25:30,640
so the the twitter poll that i put up a

644
00:25:36,070 --> 00:25:33,520
few days ago um i kind of explained that

645
00:25:38,070 --> 00:25:36,080
earlier is like do you feel like um you

646
00:25:40,149 --> 00:25:38,080
know we're being told the truth or

647
00:25:41,350 --> 00:25:40,159
or people are being honest with us and

648
00:25:43,190 --> 00:25:41,360
it was very

649
00:25:44,630 --> 00:25:43,200
uh general because i wanted people to

650
00:25:47,750 --> 00:25:44,640
just kind of take it and think about it

651
00:25:50,630 --> 00:25:47,760
how they want you know um

652
00:25:52,390 --> 00:25:50,640
in whatever way that is and you know one

653
00:25:54,549 --> 00:25:52,400
of the reasons i wanted to do that is

654
00:25:57,990 --> 00:25:54,559
because you know we're all familiar with

655
00:25:59,990 --> 00:25:58,000
um what is that called trolls

656
00:26:03,029 --> 00:26:00,000
yeah we are and one of the main things

657
00:26:03,909 --> 00:26:03,039
that they uh those trolls like to throw

658
00:26:08,830 --> 00:26:03,919
on

659
00:26:11,110 --> 00:26:08,840
of critical thinking um

660
00:26:14,070 --> 00:26:11,120
well you know

661
00:26:17,029 --> 00:26:14,080
with this poll uh the majority of people

662
00:26:21,510 --> 00:26:19,510
critical thinkers seemingly i think he

663
00:26:23,029 --> 00:26:21,520
was only like one percent just straight

664
00:26:25,590 --> 00:26:23,039
up said yes

665
00:26:27,430 --> 00:26:25,600
you know um and that person was probably

666
00:26:28,710 --> 00:26:27,440
even screwing with us

667
00:26:31,269 --> 00:26:28,720
i'm just kidding

668
00:26:33,750 --> 00:26:31,279
but most people said some true some lies

669
00:26:35,590 --> 00:26:33,760
you know and then

670
00:26:36,549 --> 00:26:35,600
and the other one was

671
00:26:39,510 --> 00:26:36,559
the

672
00:26:41,830 --> 00:26:39,520
um

673
00:26:42,950 --> 00:26:41,840
you know i'm not really sure

674
00:26:44,470 --> 00:26:42,960
you know

675
00:26:45,750 --> 00:26:44,480
and

676
00:26:48,149 --> 00:26:45,760
i think

677
00:26:49,990 --> 00:26:48,159
what that showed me is that we have a

678
00:26:52,549 --> 00:26:50,000
lot more in common here than than we

679
00:26:54,710 --> 00:26:52,559
think as far as you know the information

680
00:26:55,510 --> 00:26:54,720
we take in who it's from

681
00:26:57,750 --> 00:26:55,520
um

682
00:26:59,110 --> 00:26:57,760
what we make of it uh truthful or not

683
00:27:01,029 --> 00:26:59,120
truthful

684
00:27:02,549 --> 00:27:01,039
and a lot of it is really impossible to

685
00:27:04,310 --> 00:27:02,559
tell isn't it

686
00:27:07,830 --> 00:27:04,320
um unless you get your hands on

687
00:27:09,430 --> 00:27:07,840
something or look at it face to face or

688
00:27:12,230 --> 00:27:09,440
you know learn all the science that you

689
00:27:14,630 --> 00:27:12,240
need to learn to verify something

690
00:27:16,710 --> 00:27:14,640
how can you really commit to it one way

691
00:27:19,350 --> 00:27:16,720
or the other it's difficult

692
00:27:21,350 --> 00:27:19,360
so you know some people that do have

693
00:27:24,310 --> 00:27:21,360
you know their own experiences

694
00:27:26,149 --> 00:27:24,320
um it's it's not like

695
00:27:28,710 --> 00:27:26,159
you know even they

696
00:27:30,789 --> 00:27:28,720
um are just all of a sudden you know

697
00:27:33,590 --> 00:27:30,799
enlightened and know exactly what

698
00:27:35,510 --> 00:27:33,600
everything is you know maybe in time uh

699
00:27:37,990 --> 00:27:35,520
you learn a lot about it but definitely

700
00:27:39,669 --> 00:27:38,000
not at first you know you're confused

701
00:27:42,070 --> 00:27:39,679
just like everybody else and some could

702
00:27:43,510 --> 00:27:42,080
even say even more confused

703
00:27:45,830 --> 00:27:43,520
um

704
00:27:47,990 --> 00:27:45,840
i think for a lot of people they would

705
00:27:51,110 --> 00:27:48,000
prefer to not be confused and not

706
00:27:53,590 --> 00:27:51,120
believe in it because

707
00:27:55,350 --> 00:27:53,600
it doesn't open a can of worms that you

708
00:27:58,389 --> 00:27:55,360
know

709
00:27:59,830 --> 00:27:58,399
is really hard to put the top back on

710
00:28:01,830 --> 00:27:59,840
you know

711
00:28:03,750 --> 00:28:01,840
if i didn't have my experience if i

712
00:28:05,029 --> 00:28:03,760
wasn't doing this would life be easier

713
00:28:07,029 --> 00:28:05,039
for me

714
00:28:08,470 --> 00:28:07,039
maybe i'd be ignorant but would it be

715
00:28:10,310 --> 00:28:08,480
easier

716
00:28:12,230 --> 00:28:10,320
it it could be

717
00:28:15,110 --> 00:28:12,240
you know that could be the case i spend

718
00:28:17,590 --> 00:28:15,120
a lot of time doing this i don't make

719
00:28:19,110 --> 00:28:17,600
anything doing it you see super chats or

720
00:28:20,310 --> 00:28:19,120
anything here

721
00:28:21,909 --> 00:28:20,320
we don't

722
00:28:24,789 --> 00:28:21,919
tell some come in

723
00:28:26,389 --> 00:28:24,799
you know um but yet i keep doing this

724
00:28:28,870 --> 00:28:26,399
every day and

725
00:28:30,789 --> 00:28:28,880
it's because of the experience i had

726
00:28:34,230 --> 00:28:30,799
experiences other people had

727
00:28:35,909 --> 00:28:34,240
and other people out there that um

728
00:28:39,029 --> 00:28:35,919
you know are just looking for some sense

729
00:28:40,070 --> 00:28:39,039
of truth without having to pay for it

730
00:28:42,630 --> 00:28:40,080
which

731
00:28:45,350 --> 00:28:42,640
you know i think we're all entitled to

732
00:28:47,510 --> 00:28:45,360
most definitely

733
00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:47,520
oh i take that back i got three dollar

734
00:28:51,350 --> 00:28:48,570
super sticker

735
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:51,360
[Laughter]

736
00:28:56,230 --> 00:28:53,530
need megan to send cash asap

737
00:28:58,310 --> 00:28:56,240
[Laughter]

738
00:29:00,789 --> 00:28:58,320
no but you know it it's kind of

739
00:29:03,029 --> 00:29:00,799
unrealistic as well to

740
00:29:07,669 --> 00:29:03,039
you know

741
00:29:11,430 --> 00:29:07,679
uh recently with some people

742
00:29:16,549 --> 00:29:13,269
really what i think it comes down to

743
00:29:17,669 --> 00:29:16,559
here we go what it comes down to is um

744
00:29:18,870 --> 00:29:17,679
um

745
00:29:21,110 --> 00:29:18,880
ethics

746
00:29:22,070 --> 00:29:21,120
in this community

747
00:29:24,870 --> 00:29:22,080
and

748
00:29:29,190 --> 00:29:24,880
whether you're a podcaster or

749
00:29:31,190 --> 00:29:29,200
an author or a movie maker or

750
00:29:34,789 --> 00:29:31,200
you know an ex

751
00:29:35,990 --> 00:29:34,799
government agent or whatever it is

752
00:29:38,070 --> 00:29:36,000
i don't think

753
00:29:40,389 --> 00:29:38,080
necessarily that any ethics have ever

754
00:29:43,110 --> 00:29:40,399
been clearly defined in this field

755
00:29:45,350 --> 00:29:43,120
and sometimes

756
00:29:46,950 --> 00:29:45,360
well because of that i think people kind

757
00:29:49,430 --> 00:29:46,960
of leave it up to themselves and what

758
00:29:50,789 --> 00:29:49,440
they think is ethical and that might not

759
00:29:56,630 --> 00:29:50,799
agree

760
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,350
i think

761
00:30:03,350 --> 00:30:01,110
that first of all people are free to do

762
00:30:04,789 --> 00:30:03,360
what they want

763
00:30:05,590 --> 00:30:04,799
right

764
00:30:08,710 --> 00:30:05,600
um

765
00:30:10,389 --> 00:30:08,720
so like on ucr people donate a lot of

766
00:30:13,110 --> 00:30:10,399
money or give a lot of money and super

767
00:30:14,870 --> 00:30:13,120
chats and all that to them you know

768
00:30:17,830 --> 00:30:14,880
um

769
00:30:19,990 --> 00:30:17,840
is that wrong is it right

770
00:30:22,710 --> 00:30:20,000
it's not my decision you know whose

771
00:30:24,470 --> 00:30:22,720
decision it is really is the person

772
00:30:27,990 --> 00:30:24,480
that's giving the money

773
00:30:30,630 --> 00:30:28,000
it's their choice what they do with it

774
00:30:32,630 --> 00:30:30,640
if they don't want to they don't have to

775
00:30:34,230 --> 00:30:32,640
and if they're doing it that's their

776
00:30:36,070 --> 00:30:34,240
choice

777
00:30:37,750 --> 00:30:36,080
and there's really no room for me to

778
00:30:40,710 --> 00:30:37,760
have an opinion over what people do with

779
00:30:44,470 --> 00:30:43,029
now the flip side of that i think

780
00:30:47,269 --> 00:30:44,480
is

781
00:30:49,669 --> 00:30:47,279
when it gets to a point and maybe

782
00:30:52,389 --> 00:30:49,679
you start i'm not saying this is

783
00:30:56,470 --> 00:30:53,909
but when you start to

784
00:30:58,070 --> 00:30:56,480
um rely on on

785
00:31:01,190 --> 00:30:58,080
you know things of that sort whether it

786
00:31:03,430 --> 00:31:01,200
be patreons or super chats or anything

787
00:31:05,669 --> 00:31:03,440
for a livelihood

788
00:31:07,909 --> 00:31:05,679
you know it's just

789
00:31:10,630 --> 00:31:07,919
inevitable

790
00:31:12,870 --> 00:31:10,640
that decision making and influence

791
00:31:15,509 --> 00:31:12,880
changes to that

792
00:31:18,549 --> 00:31:16,870
and you know

793
00:31:21,029 --> 00:31:18,559
it doesn't even mean that the person

794
00:31:23,430 --> 00:31:21,039
knows that that's happening

795
00:31:26,549 --> 00:31:23,440
or realizes that

796
00:31:31,029 --> 00:31:26,559
it could be very underneath everything

797
00:31:35,669 --> 00:31:33,430
will influence your decision-making and

798
00:31:38,230 --> 00:31:35,679
that's just how it goes

799
00:31:40,870 --> 00:31:38,240
it's just the way of the world

800
00:31:42,950 --> 00:31:40,880
i mean there's no room for argument

801
00:31:47,350 --> 00:31:42,960
um

802
00:31:52,310 --> 00:31:49,590
so i should say that i guess

803
00:31:53,909 --> 00:31:52,320
but it takes a really strong

804
00:31:55,110 --> 00:31:53,919
and

805
00:31:57,350 --> 00:31:55,120
thoughtful

806
00:32:01,509 --> 00:31:57,360
person

807
00:32:06,789 --> 00:32:01,519
to know how to play that game you know

808
00:32:11,029 --> 00:32:09,110
while profiting off of something

809
00:32:12,710 --> 00:32:11,039
that's affected so many people in so

810
00:32:16,230 --> 00:32:12,720
many ways

811
00:32:18,630 --> 00:32:16,240
whether it's a little bit or a lot

812
00:32:21,990 --> 00:32:18,640
so i think it can be done but it's just

813
00:32:25,990 --> 00:32:23,909
you know and

814
00:32:27,990 --> 00:32:26,000
for some shows that are on

815
00:32:31,110 --> 00:32:28,000
um i'll just say it because

816
00:32:36,389 --> 00:32:32,870
you know the

817
00:32:40,870 --> 00:32:36,399
the talk i guess or the or the show

818
00:32:40,880 --> 00:32:44,710
and

819
00:32:48,149 --> 00:32:46,070
you know there's a couple different ways

820
00:32:50,470 --> 00:32:48,159
to look at this first of all they get a

821
00:32:52,230 --> 00:32:50,480
lot of viewers

822
00:32:56,310 --> 00:32:52,240
you know they get about

823
00:32:58,789 --> 00:32:56,320
at least a thousand plus on each video

824
00:33:00,630 --> 00:32:58,799
if way more watching their live shows i

825
00:33:03,509 --> 00:33:00,640
mean i have 12 here which i'm very

826
00:33:08,789 --> 00:33:03,519
thankful for but they always have like

827
00:33:13,269 --> 00:33:11,430
so though there comes to a point where i

828
00:33:14,630 --> 00:33:13,279
mean those people can make up their own

829
00:33:15,990 --> 00:33:14,640
mind what they're watching and what

830
00:33:18,149 --> 00:33:16,000
they're doing with and what they take

831
00:33:20,630 --> 00:33:18,159
from it what they think the intent is

832
00:33:24,230 --> 00:33:20,640
that's up to them you know

833
00:33:28,389 --> 00:33:26,389
and for me you know if i decided that i

834
00:33:30,389 --> 00:33:28,399
want to say that's wrong like

835
00:33:31,990 --> 00:33:30,399
just you know stop doing that and all

836
00:33:33,750 --> 00:33:32,000
that stuff like

837
00:33:35,110 --> 00:33:33,760
it's just not going to do anything and

838
00:33:37,190 --> 00:33:35,120
it's not going to make any difference

839
00:33:39,110 --> 00:33:37,200
because the fact is that the people like

840
00:33:40,310 --> 00:33:39,120
the show they don't mind what's

841
00:33:43,830 --> 00:33:40,320
happening

842
00:33:45,350 --> 00:33:43,840
i don't mean

843
00:33:48,230 --> 00:33:45,360
you know i don't i'm not gonna put any

844
00:33:50,310 --> 00:33:48,240
explicit intent in anybody's uh

845
00:33:52,470 --> 00:33:50,320
you know

846
00:33:54,310 --> 00:33:52,480
life or whatever

847
00:33:55,909 --> 00:33:54,320
in fact as people watch it people enjoy

848
00:33:57,269 --> 00:33:55,919
it people pay they don't complain about

849
00:34:08,629 --> 00:33:57,279
it

850
00:34:12,149 --> 00:34:10,310
you know this uh

851
00:34:15,430 --> 00:34:12,159
maybe the big phone home event i guess

852
00:34:17,510 --> 00:34:15,440
there was definitely a blossom of them

853
00:34:20,550 --> 00:34:17,520
you know they're

854
00:34:24,869 --> 00:34:22,790
they're the leader of the group and what

855
00:34:30,389 --> 00:34:24,879
i mean by leader is they get

856
00:34:40,869 --> 00:34:33,270
and i don't think

857
00:34:46,230 --> 00:34:42,950
it sucks when uh you go through

858
00:34:46,240 --> 00:34:53,990
and have a really uh dramatic experience

859
00:34:54,000 --> 00:34:58,710
and you go to a show and um

860
00:35:02,470 --> 00:35:00,310
you know

861
00:35:04,550 --> 00:35:02,480
maybe you're having a hard day

862
00:35:05,750 --> 00:35:04,560
with that experience and people are just

863
00:35:08,230 --> 00:35:05,760
laughing

864
00:35:13,990 --> 00:35:08,240
and having a good time and

865
00:35:21,589 --> 00:35:16,710
days like that make it hard

866
00:35:26,390 --> 00:35:23,670
you know it's just hard for for people

867
00:35:28,950 --> 00:35:26,400
who have had that kind of thing

868
00:35:31,910 --> 00:35:28,960
and uh to watch that and

869
00:35:36,870 --> 00:35:31,920
and not be a little perturbed

870
00:35:40,470 --> 00:35:38,150
and i don't know

871
00:35:42,710 --> 00:35:40,480
i'm not putting any intent there again

872
00:35:46,230 --> 00:35:42,720
it's just like the world isn't fair you

873
00:35:52,950 --> 00:35:48,710
i do this every day i do it for truth i

874
00:35:59,030 --> 00:35:55,030
takes attention away from things that i

875
00:36:00,870 --> 00:35:59,040
could be making more money doing

876
00:36:03,430 --> 00:36:00,880
you know but uh i don't know that i

877
00:36:05,670 --> 00:36:03,440
really have a choice

878
00:36:07,990 --> 00:36:05,680
in the matter you know

879
00:36:09,670 --> 00:36:08,000
some days are harder than others

880
00:36:11,430 --> 00:36:09,680
but all i can do is control my own

881
00:36:13,750 --> 00:36:11,440
actions

882
00:36:15,829 --> 00:36:13,760
all i can do is try to have as much

883
00:36:17,829 --> 00:36:15,839
integrity as i can

884
00:36:20,950 --> 00:36:17,839
when i do this show

885
00:36:22,950 --> 00:36:20,960
and show as much compassion as i can

886
00:36:26,550 --> 00:36:22,960
on my twitter

887
00:36:29,990 --> 00:36:26,560
or my instagram or my

888
00:36:31,829 --> 00:36:30,000
live chatters you know

889
00:36:33,750 --> 00:36:31,839
and i'm definitely not perfect and

890
00:36:35,190 --> 00:36:33,760
there's times where i screwed up and

891
00:36:37,349 --> 00:36:35,200
there's times where i'm gonna screw up

892
00:36:39,510 --> 00:36:37,359
again

893
00:36:42,870 --> 00:36:39,520
you know

894
00:36:44,630 --> 00:36:42,880
um but you have to try

895
00:36:47,589 --> 00:36:44,640
it's like

896
00:36:49,190 --> 00:36:47,599
try quitting

897
00:36:51,190 --> 00:36:49,200
and then you break and you have one well

898
00:36:53,270 --> 00:36:51,200
that doesn't mean that you have to stop

899
00:36:58,390 --> 00:36:53,280
trying to quit

900
00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,670
i just you know

901
00:37:01,680 --> 00:37:07,030
so sometimes i apologize if

902
00:37:14,069 --> 00:37:10,550
you know i think people are get stuck in

903
00:37:14,079 --> 00:37:18,870
giving donations well

904
00:37:23,190 --> 00:37:21,670
you know while i won't go there i mean

905
00:37:26,710 --> 00:37:23,200
there's a lot of people doing a lot of

906
00:37:31,910 --> 00:37:29,510
all i know is i do what i do

907
00:37:34,829 --> 00:37:33,910
i could make a living on this even if i

908
00:37:37,109 --> 00:37:34,839
wanted

909
00:37:38,870 --> 00:37:37,119
to you know

910
00:37:45,270 --> 00:37:38,880
i would lose my house

911
00:37:45,280 --> 00:37:49,109
that was rough

912
00:37:52,470 --> 00:37:51,030
and i'm sure they're not rich

913
00:37:54,230 --> 00:37:52,480
doing it either

914
00:37:55,589 --> 00:37:54,240
i'm sure they're still struggling in

915
00:37:57,829 --> 00:37:55,599
their life because you can only make so

916
00:38:01,750 --> 00:37:57,839
much doing this stuff

917
00:38:05,990 --> 00:38:03,910
you know people will choose what they

918
00:38:08,310 --> 00:38:06,000
want to do with their time and where

919
00:38:09,910 --> 00:38:08,320
they want to get their information

920
00:38:11,670 --> 00:38:09,920
and

921
00:38:13,589 --> 00:38:11,680
who am i to say that they're wrong or

922
00:38:16,550 --> 00:38:13,599
right in their decision it's up to them

923
00:38:21,829 --> 00:38:19,990
you know doesn't mean i have to

924
00:38:23,589 --> 00:38:21,839
go out there and support and retweet or

925
00:38:25,190 --> 00:38:23,599
whatever buy stuff

926
00:38:27,430 --> 00:38:25,200
doesn't mean you do

927
00:38:30,870 --> 00:38:27,440
but if other people want to

928
00:38:36,710 --> 00:38:33,430
and if it's you know upsetting enough to

929
00:38:37,750 --> 00:38:36,720
someone all you can do is hope

930
00:38:40,150 --> 00:38:37,760
that

931
00:38:41,829 --> 00:38:40,160
here comes a point where you know they

932
00:38:46,950 --> 00:38:41,839
feel enlightened a little bit and go

933
00:38:48,870 --> 00:38:46,960
somewhere else or maybe vice versa

934
00:38:50,710 --> 00:38:48,880
you know maybe the show

935
00:38:55,589 --> 00:38:50,720
because it's not just them it's like so

936
00:39:00,710 --> 00:38:58,310
this community

937
00:39:02,470 --> 00:39:00,720
has been wrought

938
00:39:04,790 --> 00:39:02,480
with people just trying to take

939
00:39:06,950 --> 00:39:04,800
advantage of other people

940
00:39:07,750 --> 00:39:06,960
and take their money

941
00:39:09,349 --> 00:39:07,760
like

942
00:39:11,030 --> 00:39:09,359
this is not you

943
00:39:15,750 --> 00:39:11,040
you know

944
00:39:17,430 --> 00:39:15,760
about ucr anymore this is just a

945
00:39:19,270 --> 00:39:17,440
different thing

946
00:39:22,710 --> 00:39:19,280
and it's been on

947
00:39:22,720 --> 00:39:26,790
you know

948
00:39:31,829 --> 00:39:29,750
it's not unique to this community

949
00:39:33,750 --> 00:39:31,839
either

950
00:39:35,589 --> 00:39:33,760
there's been

951
00:39:37,109 --> 00:39:35,599
you know but in the end it's always up

952
00:39:38,630 --> 00:39:37,119
to the person to decide what they want

953
00:39:40,829 --> 00:39:38,640
to do with their time what they want to

954
00:39:42,950 --> 00:39:40,839
watch and all that kind of

955
00:39:49,670 --> 00:39:42,960
stuff you know

956
00:39:54,310 --> 00:39:52,390
uh i don't have an objection

957
00:39:55,910 --> 00:39:54,320
against people paying money

958
00:39:57,109 --> 00:39:55,920
people can do what they want with their

959
00:39:58,790 --> 00:39:57,119
own time

960
00:40:01,910 --> 00:39:58,800
and with their own money

961
00:40:03,030 --> 00:40:01,920
it's not my decision to make

962
00:40:07,109 --> 00:40:03,040
you know

963
00:40:10,870 --> 00:40:08,950
um and when i say i lost my car and all

964
00:40:12,470 --> 00:40:10,880
that kind of stuff it's it's

965
00:40:14,069 --> 00:40:12,480
you know i'm not sitting here saying

966
00:40:17,430 --> 00:40:14,079
it's because i'm doing this show every

967
00:40:19,109 --> 00:40:17,440
day that blah blah blah you know it's

968
00:40:21,349 --> 00:40:19,119
coronavirus

969
00:40:23,030 --> 00:40:21,359
it's hard to get ahead

970
00:40:25,270 --> 00:40:23,040
at this point

971
00:40:27,910 --> 00:40:25,280
um but i'm still doing okay i'm still

972
00:40:29,349 --> 00:40:27,920
doing fine i'm still in love we still

973
00:40:31,910 --> 00:40:29,359
have enough money to survive and all

974
00:40:33,030 --> 00:40:31,920
that kind of stuff and i'm i'm not

975
00:40:35,190 --> 00:40:33,040
um

976
00:40:39,190 --> 00:40:35,200
living on a curb or anything

977
00:40:42,069 --> 00:40:40,390
i'm just saying

978
00:40:44,790 --> 00:40:42,079
um

979
00:40:45,990 --> 00:40:44,800
you know life isn't easy for for people

980
00:40:48,390 --> 00:40:46,000
for anyone

981
00:40:49,990 --> 00:40:48,400
and i'm sure it isn't for the ucr people

982
00:40:51,270 --> 00:40:50,000
either

983
00:40:53,589 --> 00:40:51,280
you know

984
00:40:55,190 --> 00:40:53,599
and they can make their choices and make

985
00:40:58,309 --> 00:40:55,200
their way and

986
00:41:00,470 --> 00:40:58,319
whatever happens with them happens

987
00:41:02,309 --> 00:41:00,480
you know but it's not my place to

988
00:41:06,150 --> 00:41:02,319
to say it's wrong or right because i

989
00:41:08,309 --> 00:41:06,160
just simply don't know

990
00:41:11,750 --> 00:41:08,319
you know and it's

991
00:41:14,710 --> 00:41:11,760
it would take up too much time

992
00:41:17,589 --> 00:41:14,720
and too much of my emotions to

993
00:41:19,510 --> 00:41:17,599
you know put that into a fight that i'm

994
00:41:20,950 --> 00:41:19,520
not even really sure what

995
00:41:23,829 --> 00:41:20,960
would be

996
00:41:28,790 --> 00:41:26,069
you know because in the end people are

997
00:41:30,950 --> 00:41:28,800
individuals and they can do what they

998
00:41:35,270 --> 00:41:30,960
wish

999
00:41:38,230 --> 00:41:35,280
and i'm not here to judge what people do

1000
00:41:41,589 --> 00:41:38,240
all i can do is control what i do

1001
00:41:43,910 --> 00:41:41,599
and hopefully people magnetize it and

1002
00:41:46,309 --> 00:41:43,920
towards that and feel the same way i do

1003
00:41:49,030 --> 00:41:46,319
about stuff

1004
00:41:51,190 --> 00:41:49,040
you know which i think people do

1005
00:41:54,230 --> 00:41:51,200
maybe not as many i've been only doing

1006
00:41:57,829 --> 00:41:54,240
this for six months

1007
00:41:57,839 --> 00:42:03,190
so who knows what the future holds

1008
00:42:09,510 --> 00:42:05,750
so i think

1009
00:42:11,190 --> 00:42:09,520
all you can really do is show by example

1010
00:42:13,430 --> 00:42:11,200
you know if

1011
00:42:15,349 --> 00:42:13,440
you see a change

1012
00:42:17,270 --> 00:42:15,359
that needs to be done you just make that

1013
00:42:20,550 --> 00:42:17,280
change in your own life and what you do

1014
00:42:20,560 --> 00:42:24,790
you gotta lead by example

1015
00:42:30,069 --> 00:42:25,829
you know

1016
00:42:33,910 --> 00:42:31,910
that's all we could ever do

1017
00:42:44,150 --> 00:42:33,920
unless your boss then you can just say

1018
00:42:46,950 --> 00:42:44,870
so

1019
00:42:48,470 --> 00:42:46,960
i think it's up to

1020
00:42:51,190 --> 00:42:48,480
you know individuals what they want to

1021
00:42:54,790 --> 00:42:51,200
do and you know it is what it is

1022
00:42:56,950 --> 00:42:54,800
so i do my thing that do their thing

1023
00:42:59,030 --> 00:42:56,960
you know

1024
00:43:00,790 --> 00:42:59,040
i don't really have a beef and when i

1025
00:43:02,710 --> 00:43:00,800
feel negative it's just like i said

1026
00:43:04,630 --> 00:43:02,720
earlier on one of those hard days one

1027
00:43:05,670 --> 00:43:04,640
i'm dealing with my experience and i run

1028
00:43:07,750 --> 00:43:05,680
into

1029
00:43:09,670 --> 00:43:07,760
you know a merch post or something like

1030
00:43:11,670 --> 00:43:09,680
that yeah that's hard

1031
00:43:17,430 --> 00:43:11,680
you know

1032
00:43:21,990 --> 00:43:19,829
but generally speaking

1033
00:43:24,470 --> 00:43:22,000
um i try not to get into that or think

1034
00:43:28,230 --> 00:43:24,480
about it too much you know

1035
00:43:28,240 --> 00:43:32,230
that's how i feel

1036
00:43:35,510 --> 00:43:33,990
so

1037
00:43:38,069 --> 00:43:35,520
you know but i wouldn't lie to you it

1038
00:43:40,309 --> 00:43:38,079
has been on my mind because there is a

1039
00:43:41,589 --> 00:43:40,319
certain person that goes pretty hard at

1040
00:43:43,510 --> 00:43:41,599
it

1041
00:43:46,790 --> 00:43:43,520
and take me in a post and i'm like oh

1042
00:43:48,790 --> 00:43:46,800
god don't get me involved in this

1043
00:43:50,710 --> 00:43:48,800
um

1044
00:43:51,990 --> 00:43:50,720
you know because in the end of the day

1045
00:43:53,430 --> 00:43:52,000
like

1046
00:43:55,670 --> 00:43:53,440
i don't know that i'd be here if i

1047
00:43:57,589 --> 00:43:55,680
wasn't a you know participate in the big

1048
00:44:00,870 --> 00:43:57,599
phone home one

1049
00:44:02,790 --> 00:44:00,880
all that stuff you know

1050
00:44:04,390 --> 00:44:02,800
um i don't really exactly want to bite

1051
00:44:05,829 --> 00:44:04,400
the hand that you know

1052
00:44:08,069 --> 00:44:05,839
fed me

1053
00:44:09,430 --> 00:44:08,079
either you know everyone's just trying

1054
00:44:11,510 --> 00:44:09,440
to do the best they can and make the

1055
00:44:12,950 --> 00:44:11,520
best decisions they can and everyone has

1056
00:44:14,710 --> 00:44:12,960
different perspectives and different

1057
00:44:18,309 --> 00:44:14,720
life experiences that guide those

1058
00:44:18,319 --> 00:44:21,030
nice

1059
00:44:27,670 --> 00:44:23,589
i do have a t-shirt but i forget where

1060
00:44:30,150 --> 00:44:27,680
where it is what the link is

1061
00:44:32,230 --> 00:44:30,160
but yeah i mean even merch itself it's

1062
00:44:34,309 --> 00:44:32,240
funny like um

1063
00:44:36,710 --> 00:44:34,319
it takes a lot of time to put the merch

1064
00:44:39,109 --> 00:44:36,720
together like i was in a band for a long

1065
00:44:40,790 --> 00:44:39,119
time it's not like you can just click a

1066
00:44:43,190 --> 00:44:40,800
couple of buttons and have merch and

1067
00:44:45,270 --> 00:44:43,200
people buy it like you have to design

1068
00:44:46,870 --> 00:44:45,280
the stuff then if you want people to buy

1069
00:44:49,270 --> 00:44:46,880
it you do have to

1070
00:44:51,829 --> 00:44:49,280
post stuff so people know

1071
00:44:53,829 --> 00:44:51,839
you know so it's just kind of the way of

1072
00:44:56,309 --> 00:44:53,839
the world you know

1073
00:44:58,390 --> 00:44:56,319
it's just how it goes

1074
00:45:00,069 --> 00:44:58,400
the good part though is

1075
00:45:02,950 --> 00:45:00,079
you know hopefully this amendment goes

1076
00:45:05,829 --> 00:45:02,960
through and it passes

1077
00:45:08,390 --> 00:45:05,839
and in the end isn't that what

1078
00:45:10,710 --> 00:45:08,400
you know a lot of

1079
00:45:12,710 --> 00:45:10,720
for a lot of people what what this stuff

1080
00:45:15,349 --> 00:45:12,720
is about is getting some

1081
00:45:17,990 --> 00:45:15,359
transparency

1082
00:45:21,510 --> 00:45:18,000
and does that mean or guarantee

1083
00:45:23,510 --> 00:45:21,520
transparency no but it's a great step

1084
00:45:24,950 --> 00:45:23,520
it's a huge step

1085
00:45:28,150 --> 00:45:24,960
you know

1086
00:45:30,069 --> 00:45:28,160
and they were a part of that

1087
00:45:32,550 --> 00:45:30,079
like it or not

1088
00:45:34,550 --> 00:45:32,560
you know

1089
00:45:36,309 --> 00:45:34,560
they deserve credit for them

1090
00:45:38,950 --> 00:45:36,319
so

1091
00:45:43,030 --> 00:45:41,109
you know i have bad days but in the end

1092
00:45:44,309 --> 00:45:43,040
i i'll always believe in love and that

1093
00:45:47,190 --> 00:45:44,319
we should show as much love and

1094
00:45:49,750 --> 00:45:47,200
compassion as we can and and i hope i do

1095
00:45:52,470 --> 00:45:49,760
think that that would save the day

1096
00:45:56,710 --> 00:45:52,480
and it just may take time

1097
00:45:59,750 --> 00:45:58,230
yeah i mean that's that's what i was

1098
00:46:01,910 --> 00:45:59,760
pretty much talking about early and it's

1099
00:46:04,069 --> 00:46:01,920
really hard to to do things and not let

1100
00:46:06,950 --> 00:46:04,079
money influence your decision making it

1101
00:46:09,030 --> 00:46:06,960
can be done for sure

1102
00:46:10,630 --> 00:46:09,040
most definitely

1103
00:46:11,990 --> 00:46:10,640
it's just not easy

1104
00:46:16,470 --> 00:46:12,000
i'm not saying that's what's happening

1105
00:46:21,990 --> 00:46:17,990
about

1106
00:46:27,670 --> 00:46:24,230
sean's old merch a-okay

1107
00:46:31,589 --> 00:46:27,680
[Laughter]

1108
00:46:36,070 --> 00:46:33,190
all right

1109
00:46:40,790 --> 00:46:36,080
i know where one shirt is here you go

1110
00:46:43,770 --> 00:46:42,790
you can't have it though

1111
00:46:47,589 --> 00:46:43,780
it's my only one

1112
00:46:50,150 --> 00:46:47,599
[Laughter]

1113
00:46:54,870 --> 00:46:50,160
so yeah

1114
00:47:00,870 --> 00:46:57,670
so hope that doesn't upset anybody but

1115
00:47:00,880 --> 00:47:05,109
honest to

1116
00:47:07,990 --> 00:47:06,950
who um

1117
00:47:11,589 --> 00:47:08,000
who i am

1118
00:47:13,829 --> 00:47:11,599
and when i'm not who i'd like to be

1119
00:47:19,430 --> 00:47:16,150
with that being said we have a pretty

1120
00:47:21,510 --> 00:47:19,440
good show later with um the experiencer

1121
00:47:24,790 --> 00:47:21,520
from the observers

1122
00:47:29,349 --> 00:47:26,950
you know she has a lot to say in that

1123
00:47:31,109 --> 00:47:29,359
movie

1124
00:47:33,510 --> 00:47:31,119
that's for sure so

1125
00:47:35,349 --> 00:47:33,520
i plan on digging

1126
00:47:38,470 --> 00:47:35,359
with some of that and having a good

1127
00:47:41,030 --> 00:47:38,480
conversation it's gonna be at 6 pm

1128
00:47:45,270 --> 00:47:41,040
central standard time

1129
00:47:49,109 --> 00:47:47,829
sometimes i don't say the person's last

1130
00:47:52,870 --> 00:47:49,119
name because i think i'm going to screw

1131
00:47:58,309 --> 00:47:56,069
um but yeah so deborah's gonna be on

1132
00:47:59,270 --> 00:47:58,319
um look forward to talking with her you

1133
00:48:01,510 --> 00:47:59,280
know

1134
00:48:04,710 --> 00:48:01,520
um

1135
00:48:06,790 --> 00:48:04,720
i love that i am

1136
00:48:08,870 --> 00:48:06,800
you know a place for experiencers

1137
00:48:10,950 --> 00:48:08,880
to come as you know

1138
00:48:13,430 --> 00:48:10,960
there is a safe space

1139
00:48:15,670 --> 00:48:13,440
um but i am and i like

1140
00:48:17,430 --> 00:48:15,680
that

1141
00:48:20,309 --> 00:48:17,440
you know because we need uh we need

1142
00:48:21,910 --> 00:48:20,319
spots for experiencers like her like

1143
00:48:24,710 --> 00:48:21,920
linda like myself

1144
00:48:27,990 --> 00:48:24,720
other people um to go and be free and

1145
00:48:32,150 --> 00:48:29,510
you know

1146
00:48:35,750 --> 00:48:32,160
and not be ridiculed because

1147
00:48:40,150 --> 00:48:35,760
that happens sometimes

1148
00:48:45,030 --> 00:48:41,670
and that would be the one thing that

1149
00:48:46,309 --> 00:48:45,040
irritates me more than anything

1150
00:48:50,390 --> 00:48:46,319
so

1151
00:48:54,150 --> 00:48:51,430
i don't know just kind of throwing

1152
00:48:55,910 --> 00:48:54,160
together show but uh i cancelled on

1153
00:48:57,510 --> 00:48:55,920
until last time and we had this

1154
00:48:58,309 --> 00:48:57,520
scheduled and i really wanted to do it

1155
00:49:01,030 --> 00:48:58,319
so

1156
00:49:05,109 --> 00:49:01,040
we went ahead and did it

1157
00:49:11,349 --> 00:49:07,750
you know stay positive

1158
00:49:13,589 --> 00:49:11,359
look for yeah i'll make some

1159
00:49:18,630 --> 00:49:13,599
i'll make some i'll make some but

1160
00:49:18,640 --> 00:49:22,950
who's this fancy guy

1161
00:49:22,960 --> 00:49:26,549
all right so

1162
00:49:30,870 --> 00:49:28,390
uh yeah with that being said you guys

1163
00:49:33,670 --> 00:49:30,880
stay positive stay up be good to each

1164
00:49:36,309 --> 00:49:33,680
other uh be good to everybody else ucr

1165
00:49:37,910 --> 00:49:36,319
and everybody you know everybody's um

1166
00:49:39,349 --> 00:49:37,920
you know doing the best

1167
00:49:41,270 --> 00:49:39,359
that they can

1168
00:49:42,150 --> 00:49:41,280
and i don't think there's anybody trying

1169
00:49:45,190 --> 00:49:42,160
to be

1170
00:49:46,390 --> 00:49:45,200
uh evil or nefarious

1171
00:49:47,589 --> 00:49:46,400
um

1172
00:49:49,430 --> 00:49:47,599
you know

1173
00:49:51,430 --> 00:49:49,440
just love each other and respect each

1174
00:49:54,230 --> 00:49:51,440
other's decisions and if you don't like

1175
00:50:01,589 --> 00:49:56,549
you know sometimes it sucks but you can

1176
00:50:06,790 --> 00:50:03,829
like my channel

1177
00:50:08,470 --> 00:50:06,800
i would love more people

1178
00:50:10,390 --> 00:50:08,480
love the people i got

1179
00:50:13,910 --> 00:50:10,400
by the way too so

1180
00:50:15,109 --> 00:50:13,920
all right you guys have a groovy day and

1181
00:50:17,990 --> 00:50:15,119
you're gonna get real sick of me because

1182
00:50:19,670 --> 00:50:18,000
i'll be back in less than four hours

1183
00:50:22,470 --> 00:50:19,680
all right with that being said this

1184
00:50:24,470 --> 00:50:22,480
video is most fitting thank you so much

1185
00:50:27,349 --> 00:50:24,480
i really do appreciate you and coming

1186
00:50:29,589 --> 00:50:27,359
around and being here and watching these

1187
00:50:31,829 --> 00:50:29,599
and saying nice things and uplifting

1188
00:50:35,510 --> 00:50:31,839
things and showing support

1189
00:50:38,230 --> 00:50:36,950
really really does

1190
00:50:40,470 --> 00:50:38,240
so

1191
00:50:46,290 --> 00:50:40,480
i truly mean that all right